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December 12, 2004
S(1) 4 Personal reference numbers etc
Personal reference numbers etc.
4 (1) The following may be recorded in an individual’s entry in the Register
(a) his National Identity Registration Number;
(b) the number of any ID card issued to him;
(c) any national insurance number allocated to him;
(d) the number of any immigration document relating to him;
(e) the number of any United Kingdom passport (within the meaning of the Immigration Act 1971 (c. 77)) that has been issued to him;
(f) the number of any passport issued to him by or on behalf of the authorities of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom or by or on behalf of an international organisation;
(g) the number of any document that can be used by him (in some or all circumstances) instead of a passport;
(h) the number of any identity card issued to him by the authorities of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom;
(i) any reference number allocated to him by the Secretary of State in connection with an application made by him for permission to enter or to remain in the United Kingdom;
(j) the number of any work permit (within the meaning of the Immigration Act 1971) relating to him;
(k) any driver number given to him by a driving licence;
(l) the number of any designated document which is held by him and is a document the number of which does not fall within any of the preceding sub-paragraphs;
(m) the date of expiry or period of validity of a document the number of which is recorded by virtue of this paragraph.
(2) In this paragraph "immigration document" means
(a) a document used for confirming the right of a person under the Community Treaties in respect of entry or residence in the United Kingdom;
(b) a document which is given in exercise of immigration functions and records information about leave granted to a person to enter or to remain in the United Kingdom; or
(c) a registration card (within the meaning of section 26A of the
Immigration Act 1971);
and in paragraph (b) "immigration functions" means functions under the Immigration Acts (within the meaning of the Asylum and Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004 (c. 19)).
(3) In this paragraph "driving licence" means
(a) a licence to drive a motor vehicle granted under Part 3 of the Road
Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52); or
(b) a licence to drive a motor vehicle granted under Part 2 of the Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1981 (S.I. 1981/154 (N.I. 1)).
Posted by wtwu at December 12, 2004 01:13 PM
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Our previous comment on this in the Draft ID card Bill:
"The wording of this section implies that the numbers of all previous and expired Passports etc. will end up bloating the National Information Register database.
Why ?
This data will be a pointless duplication of the Passport Office databases. What possible use are these in identifying someone now ?
The National Insurance Number (NINO) should not be recorded either - it will simply lead to even more innacurate and mistyped National Insurance Numbers in circulation. This is not an Inland Revenue database it is a National Identity Register.
c.f. Richard Thomas the Information Commissioner, in his evidence to the Home Affairs Committee on 3rd of February 2004
"For example, I would like to see it, if possible, designed into the face of the legislation that there should be only the absolute minimum information carried on the face of the card itself. I would be unhappy, for example, if national insurance numbers appeared on the face of the card. I would be unhappy if an address appeared on the face of the card."
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmhaff/uc130-ii/uc13002.htm">http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmhaff/uc130-ii/uc13002.htm
Just exactly how is the correct National Insurance Number going to be inserted into the NIR ? This can only be done if and when the Inland Revenue sorts out the scandal of 85 million National Insurance Numbers for a population of only 60 million people. If they cannot do it, why should the NIR magically be able to do this during ID card enrollment ?
RECCOMENDATION:
Prohibit the recording of National Insurance Numbers and the past transaction history of old or expired Passports etc. on the NIR database or the ID card itself."
Posted by: wtwu at December 12, 2004 03:44 PM
So, instead of removing unecessary categories of information from this Schedule when published in the Draft ID card Bill, the Government has added more categories in the full Identity Cards Bill.
The same arguements about the Passport number ot the National Insuarance Number now have to be applied to the Driving Licence number.
The Government has quietly stopped talking about a combined multi-function ID Card/ Passport/ Driving Licence, possibly because, as we pointed out from the start, the formats of these are set internationally, and they are physically different in layout and, even where they do use Smart Card technology for the new and forthcoming versions, this is mutually incompatible.
Posted by: wtwu at December 12, 2004 04:30 PM
"(c) any national insurance number allocated to him;"
How will this solve the legacy of incompetence which led the Inland Revenue to issue some 85 million National insurance Numbers for a working population of less than half that figure ? They used to issue different numbers if you moved house or employer after say a period away from work raising a family.
If this simply duplicates the Inland Revenue records, then how can it possibly be any more effective than the existing systems are at tackling any sort of illegal working or tax evasion ?
The danger is that you will put what you think is your your current NINO into the National Identity Register system, but that the duplicates or triplicates etc . will cause the system to treat this as false information, and you will get threatened with a £1000 fine.
If there are any queries about this at Enrolment time, are they meant to be sorted out there and then, or will you have to come back for another expensive time wasting NIR Enrolment session once the Inland Revenue have sorted out their problem ?
Posted by: wtwu at January 24, 2005 05:54 PM
i have lost my national insurance card, and have been searching the internet to try an find out how i ca recieve a new one. is it possible that you could give me some information about applying for a replacement of a nic card?
Posted by: carly brown at November 22, 2005 02:18 PM